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what about senate minority leader mitch mcconnell? >> well, the thing at this point and i'm told by sources is that there really are no negotiations going on between senator mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, and senator majority leader harry reid, in hawaii for the funeral of daniel inouye and is now on his way back to washington. it would come down to the senate doing something. there would be a possibility that senate mcconnell might allow this bill i mentioned that i already passed in july, was a threshold for tax hikes, being at the $250,000 level, he may allow democrats to say, the house has to take this, or if there is some sort of vote on another measure, while mitch mcconnell would be unlikely to personally support it, perhaps he might let some of his republican senators do that, now, this is sort of thinking, coming from democrats, this is not something that mitch mcconnell at this point is planning to do, and it's very much unclear. the fact is, though, it doesn't just matter what the senate does, don. th
what about senate minority leader mitch mcconnell? >> well, the thing at this point and i'm told by sources is that there really are no negotiations going on between senator mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, and senator majority leader harry reid, in hawaii for the funeral of daniel inouye and is now on his way back to washington. it would come down to the senate doing something. there would be a possibility that senate mcconnell might allow this bill i mentioned that...
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what about mitch mcconnell or someone, can we expect anybody else to do something besides the house speaker and the president? >> reporter: well, at this point i think the ball is really out of the court of president obama and house speaker john boehner. obviously something would have to get through the house, but we're definitely focusing on the senate. i will tell you talking to sources that it doesn't even appear that senate majority leader reid and senate minority leader mcconnell are talking. the discussions aren't under way yet. you talk to sources on the hill and you get the sense that reid is waiting for mcconnell to chime in and mcconnell is waiting for reid to chime in. so this is a bit of a standoff right now and we are waiting to see who is going to blink. that's really the question, who is going to blink first and the fact is we just don't know. >> brianna keilar, thank you very much. >>> first, now they were only trying to buy bread and now over 100 people are dead after a bakery is bombed by war planes. we're live from the middle east as the violence in syria escalates. >>> a
what about mitch mcconnell or someone, can we expect anybody else to do something besides the house speaker and the president? >> reporter: well, at this point i think the ball is really out of the court of president obama and house speaker john boehner. obviously something would have to get through the house, but we're definitely focusing on the senate. i will tell you talking to sources that it doesn't even appear that senate majority leader reid and senate minority leader mcconnell are...
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mcconnell which is key in finding something to get through the senate and perhaps because of that, i guess some of that pessimism that you are hearing from republicans like senator brasso, shared by democrats. take a listen. >> i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not and that -- if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> so all eyes now on the senate, which will reconvene on thursday. senate majority leader harry reid has the task of trying to cobble something together that can get through, not only the senate, probably with republican support, but also through the house of representatives with some republican support. the white house still publicly saying they want the threshold for tax cuts to remain at $250,000 and below for folks to see tax cuts preserved what we hear from both sides, democrats and republicans there, is a significant possibility we go over the fiscal cliff. what are they saying? merry cliff-mas? >> yes, they are. 'twas
mcconnell which is key in finding something to get through the senate and perhaps because of that, i guess some of that pessimism that you are hearing from republicans like senator brasso, shared by democrats. take a listen. >> i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not and that -- if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> so all eyes now on...
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want to get a debt ceiling increase, both speaker boehner and the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell have made it clear, you want $1 trillion of more debt ceiling, because that's what the president is running, $1 trillion more debts, you have to cut it at the same time. they won it a year ago. they'll win it in the future. this is a long fight. it's four years of a fight. it's not one week of a fight. to your earlier question, does the president want to take us over the cliff? i think now he does. the reason is he needs an excuse for the next four years of failure. blaming it on bush doesn't work very much. the regulations and spending he's put on the economy for the next four years is going to put us in recession regardless of the fiscal cliff. >> to be fair, i'm told there are a number of republicans, especially in the house, who want to go over the cliff for the reason i explained, that they'd much rather vote for a tax cut than a tax increase because they don't want to break your pledge. grover, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> no one should break their pledge. >>
want to get a debt ceiling increase, both speaker boehner and the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell have made it clear, you want $1 trillion of more debt ceiling, because that's what the president is running, $1 trillion more debts, you have to cut it at the same time. they won it a year ago. they'll win it in the future. this is a long fight. it's four years of a fight. it's not one week of a fight. to your earlier question, does the president want to take us over the cliff? i...
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one of those 4 senators is mitch mcconnell the g.o.p. leader. >> reporter: the president before leaving for hawaii says he hopes everyone gets a chance to drink some el nog, sing some christmas carols and get with their constituents to aeu to tell them they can get something done. all this will only cut $8 billion as opposed to the $4 trillion. can't america do better th-pb. >> the discussions have been focused entirely on taxes. even if you adopted all the president's tax cuts -- tax increases that he wanted it would do so little to touch our long-term fiscal problem. it really needs to be entitlement reform and it's really a tragedy that everything has been focused on taxes when entitlement reform is really what needs to be addressed to address a long term fiscal crisis. >> reporter: that and taxes seem to be the sticking point. jaime we thank you your insights. merry chris misand happy holidays to you. >> same to you. thank you. >> reporter: there were four firefighters responding to a fire in upstate new york and all four were shot o
one of those 4 senators is mitch mcconnell the g.o.p. leader. >> reporter: the president before leaving for hawaii says he hopes everyone gets a chance to drink some el nog, sing some christmas carols and get with their constituents to aeu to tell them they can get something done. all this will only cut $8 billion as opposed to the $4 trillion. can't america do better th-pb. >> the discussions have been focused entirely on taxes. even if you adopted all the president's tax cuts --...
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where negotiations need to happen is with mitch mcconnell because this will have to, if we're going to get a deal done originate in the senate. really the roadblock, absolutely democrats will have to compromise on spending cuts 100% but republicans where we have a standstill on this idealogical difference do we raise taxes at all so yeah. gregg: let me ask tony about that since he is the republican. speaker boehner, tony, couldn't even bring his plan up for a vote. i mean it was pretty embarrassing. has he lost control of his own party and failed in his job as leader in the house? >> well, look, speaker boehner has a very hard task and he has already tried ernestly you say a lot of things about him but can't say he hasn't tried to bring two ideas in the forefront. one that works within the bowles-simpson, bipartisan debt commission's framework of tax revenue being part of it but the majority of reform coming from spending cuts. he had the plan b which i think fairly raises threshold. gregg: that was easy for republicans to pass and he couldn't even get votes to put it on the floor. >>
where negotiations need to happen is with mitch mcconnell because this will have to, if we're going to get a deal done originate in the senate. really the roadblock, absolutely democrats will have to compromise on spending cuts 100% but republicans where we have a standstill on this idealogical difference do we raise taxes at all so yeah. gregg: let me ask tony about that since he is the republican. speaker boehner, tony, couldn't even bring his plan up for a vote. i mean it was pretty...
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. >> well, and that's why, and that's why the president ask speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and harry reid need to come back and make sure their membership -- boehner couldn't deliver the other day -- make sure the membership, and by the way, boehner may have to go with democrats plus a minority of republicans to get the job done. gregg: yeah. >> this is about the welfare of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done his job in leading especially in the fiscal cliff, he wouldn't be in hawaii now, he'd be in washington making sure that we had a deal -- gregg: has boehner done his job? >> boehner has done a great job in t
. >> well, and that's why, and that's why the president ask speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and harry reid need to come back and make sure their membership -- boehner couldn't deliver the other day -- make sure the membership, and by the way, boehner may have to go with democrats plus a minority of republicans to get the job done. gregg: yeah. >> this is about the welfare of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one...